The Thinking Man’s Take On: Concert Crowds

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I had the pleasure of catching Cut Copy and Matt & Kim at the newly reopened House of Blues in Boston this past weekend, a great show to be sure.  But there was one drawback – the crowd.  Not the whole crowd, though.  Specific members of the crowd who were seemingly there with the sole purpose of annoying music fans.  I’m sure you’ve been at concerts full of these people.  It’s awful.

Crowds at live concerts vary wildly depending on where you are and who you are seeing perform, obviously.  New York fans are savvy – often bordering on jaded – and knowledgeable.  Philly fans are dancey and ragey.  SXSW fans are bloggers.  And Boston has grown a unique breed of concertgoers, too old to be hipsters and too drunk to be polite.  But everywhere you go, really, the people who bring the crowd down are the same.

So next time you go to a concert, please, don’t be That Guy or That Girl.

Disclaimer: I hope this doesn’t come off as too angry or bitter.  I get pretty riled up when I think about how much these people annoy me.  But it’s for everyone’s good, in the end.

Don’t be…

The Drinks Guy: I have no problem with people enjoying some frosty oat sodas during a concert – and if it makes the crowd dance more I’m all for it.  But seriously, your PBR comes in a big can for a reason – maximum beer, minimum trips.  The Drinks Guy, though, needs to have a mixed drink in hand at all times and wants to be in the center of the pit.  So throughout the show he goes back and forth to the bar, spilling on everyone in his path, spending outrageous amounts of money on booze, and – of course – holding his drink high above his head as he maneuvers through the crowd, lest he spill a precious drop of his Long Island Iced Tea.  If you’re going to drink all show, stand at the bar.  Otherwise, get your drinks between acts and listen to some music for once.

The Pusher People: These are, hands down, the lowest of the low.  Here’s the scene – you get to the show in time for the opener.  You even catch some of the opening DJ set.  You find the perfect spot on the floor – good view, good distance from the stage, enough room for you and your friends to groove to some tunes without bumping elbows all night.  Everything is fine until about 2 songs into the headliner, when suddenly 7 small girls funnel past you to the front of the crowd.  Followed by their 7 large boyfriends.  And 4 other people going to “meet their friends”.  Within three songs you’re at the back of the crowd with Shaquille O’Neal standing directly in front of you.  And to top it all off, no one even said “excuse me”.  As a friend best put it – even if you’re pushing past me to get to the front, we’re still both human beings.  If you want to be in the front row, get to the concert on time.  I’m going to keep making it as difficult as possible to push past me.

The Mosher in the Back: The exact opposite of Pusher People, this person decides to bring the front-crowd party to the back-crowd floor.  A ball of energy with reckless abandon, he bounces off people trying to calmly and sedately enjoy some good music, demanding that they join him in headbanging and playing Tasmanian Devil.  It’s not cool.  Go to the front of the crowd and throw your body against people who signed up for that, nobody appreciates it back here.  I still have nightmares about the large sweaty girl who insisted on rubbing up on everyone around her at an RJD2 show at the Middle East.

The Talkers: Arg, these people make me angry just thinking about them.  They’re not usually a problem during the headliner (although when they are it’s even more excruciating) but The Talkers will destroy any opening act.  They stand directly in front of you, talking about inane topics as great bands play softer music.  I saw The Faint play at the Roxy in 2004, and the two people in front of me talked during the entire opening act – a little group known as TV On The Radio.  Makes me want to pull my hair out.  If you don’t care about the music, that’s fine.  I dig the concept of concerts as social events, and I think it’s fine to chat it up with your friends.  But do it at the bar, between sets, or in your friend’s ear.  I really don’t need to hear all about how Tanya wanted to go bowling yesterday but you were hanging out with Sarah instead.

The HUGE Swaying Dude: Now, I know that you can’t control how tall you are.  And I truly believe that you should be able to stand wherever you want in a crowd, no matter how tall you are.  We’re not going to line up with the shortest people in the front and tallest in the back, so you shouldn’t feel bad about standing in the front of the crowd.  But please please please, Mr. 6’5”, stay in one place.  You should dance, you should bop, you should get into the music.  But you shouldn’t shuffle back and forth in a 3-foot line from left to right.  I’m watching over your left shoulder, now I’m watching over your right shoulder, now I’m watching over your left should.  Please pick somewhere and stay there.  Thanks.  Also, please don’t beat me up.

The Cell Phone Girl: Three main ways you can misuse your cell phone during a concert.
1) You can talk really loudly on it.  Unless you’re giving directions for someone to find you, you should put that conversation on hold.  But in the grand scheme of things, this is not a huge offense.
2) You can hold your phone up during a hit song so that “your friend can hear it”.  Having been on the receiving end of this sort of call, let me tell you what it sounds like: “

khhhrhrrrrkrkkkckchhchhhhhhhhck OMG WISH YOU WERE HERE”.  This is the best way to use technology to brag to your friends, annoy them, and destroy their hearing simultaneously.
3) You can use your cell phone light as a lighter during slow ballads.  This fad, in all seriousness, makes me want to shoot myself in the face.  Nothing about it is good and it makes everybody participating look like a tool.  Lighters are cool because they are made of fire, which is cool looking.  Cell phones are essentially little bluish flashlights, and they just make everyone sad that the lighter thing doesn’t happen anymore.  So put your cell away.

The Makeout Couple: This one is a problem everywhere, obviously, but it’s the worst at shows.  This weekend there was a couple making out for a good 20 minutes in front of me.  And it’s frustratingly hard to ignore – my mind starts racing desperately to figure out what is going on.  What are these people thinking?  Did they really pay $30 to french kiss in a group of strangers?  Do they not have homes?  Or Subway tickets?  Did they just meet?  How long are they going to keep doing this?  How is he breathing?  By this point I’m completely repulsed, both by them and by myself, and music is an afterthought.  We don’t need to see it, we don’t want to see it.  Turn around and pay attention to the show, and all problems will be solved.

The “Freebird” Guy: I have a soft spot for this guy, since I think every music fan has this person inside them.  You’ve been a fan of a band since their first album, and you’ve had a lot of good times while listening to one song.  Every bone in your body wants to shout out to request it.  Except that the band isn’t playing requests, and they have a setlist.  So unless it’s a quiet acoustic show and the band is open to suggestions, please don’t shout out song titles.  Even doing it once or twice is fine.  But if every time there is a lull onstage you yell “Electric Feel!” as loud as you can, everyone is going to hate you.  Best Freebird Guy I’ve ever seen was a college student who went on stage during intermission and left a note for Béla Fleck asking him kindly to play Big Country, since it’s a cult hit at Dartmouth.  Worst Freebird Guy I’ve ever seen was a concert late-comer who yelled for the Flaming Lips to play Yoshimi two songs after they had just played Yoshimi.  Ouch.

Alright, I’m all ranted-out.  Stay classy, say excuse me, and don’t be obnoxious.  It’ll be nicer for everyone that way.


Chris Barth writes a weekly Thinking Man feature here at Pretty Much Amazing.  You can read his more succinct daily entries at his blog, The Stu Reid Experiment.

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ron.e March 24, 2009 at 9:00 pm

gaaaah! i caught cut copy/matt & kim in concert last friday in toronto too! and you have got the first five on point! do they attract these types of crowds??? my poor zuurich shoes :(

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Evan March 24, 2009 at 9:21 pm

I can’t stand the make out couple. I went to see Bon Iver/Bowerbirds in Philly last year and these two horn dogs were practically swallowing each other whole. I wanted to vomit.

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angfoo March 24, 2009 at 9:27 pm

Brilliant post! These are the people that ruin my show-going experience :( Just last week, I had the two “Drinks Guys” spill beer on my head (they were on a higher level) at an A-Trak gig.

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Hanan March 24, 2009 at 9:37 pm

haha gotta agree with Evan

great post. I had a similar experience with you “worst” freebird guy, when I saw Little Joy, some drunk guy yelled out “for no one’s better sake” a song after they had played it.

the drinks guy is the worst. by far. because midway through the headliner’s set, he starts to spill his damned drink on you and then proceed to hit on you. urggg

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che March 25, 2009 at 12:56 am

i got a suggestion move. everyone is there to have fun and if you focus on others o you are not looking at the show. I am everyone of these guys and everyone loves me because i always having more fun than they are so that lets them let go a little

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chopsticknick March 25, 2009 at 1:01 am

I happen to be 6’5″, and I always used to be really self-conscious of the fact that I might be blocking other people’s view – in doing so often severely lessening my enjoyment of the show itself. Now though, if I choose to sway, bop, dance, do whatever (except mosh, unless I’m at the front) just like the girl 3 feet to my right who is hearing Animal Collective for the first time, or the guy who is completely in love with Lykke Li, then I’ll do it. If you’ve got a problem with that, take it up with those things you own called legs, and move. Why should a tall person have to behave any differently than everyone else? And to all you idiots out there, don’t make the inane comment ‘wow, you’re really tall’… No shit. You’re quite average yourself.

Great post though, all the other stereotypes are spot on.

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chopsticknick March 25, 2009 at 1:12 am

sorry for the rant…

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Sarah March 25, 2009 at 1:33 am

Pushers are definitely the worst.

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Brandon - theburningear.com March 25, 2009 at 4:10 am

@ chopsticknick: Big ups to a fellow 6’5″er! Don’t stop the rock and as along as we keep our elbows in check everyone will live.

@ Chris Barth: I have always dug your “Thinking Man…” column, and this one is no exception, but I am confused by your suggestion that Mosher In The Back should move to the front. Wouldn’t that by definition make him a Pusher?

I also have to respectfully add (and agree with chopsticknick that) that if someone in your vicinity is ruining your experience then you need to move. Nobody likes any of the people on this list, but then again nobody likes the guy who walks out of the concert complaining about all of them. Its a harsh world, we have to make our own fun, not let others take it away.

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Mick March 25, 2009 at 7:24 am

Great post, once again.

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Meg March 25, 2009 at 8:05 am

Yes! This is the Boston concert scene in a nutshell. It’s sad when the best crowd I’ve been a part of was at the J Geils show at the HOB last month – a bunch of old dudes who were totally stoked to relive their high school days. They were, however, happy, considerate, and true-blue fans. It was refreshing to attend a concert with people who were clearly there to enjoy the music and the overall live experience.

And Pusher People are by far the worst. As a lady, I have no qualms about pushing back/tripping up/elbowing the bratty HS girls who attempt to push forward. Now that I’m in my mid-20s, though, it’s probably a little less acceptable…

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nicjae March 25, 2009 at 1:14 pm

Love this post. I’ve witnessed all of these people at one time or another. Pushers – just say “excuse me” for christs sake! Drink Guy – stick to the bar – I’ll do a shot with you! Tall fella – I love that you’re into it, but don’t crush the small people next to you! That said, I’ve gotta shout out to my fellow Denverites, generally some of the politest concert goers around. I had a blast at the Cut Copy/Matt & Kim show here.

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kate March 25, 2009 at 1:31 pm

I was at the Bloc Party show at House of Blues, and I was right behind a double wammy: drinkers AND talkers! The two girls were Irish, so i’ll give them a little leeway on the binge drinking, but they did not shut up! I had to give up my prime spot in the crowd just to escape their yakking and enjoy the music. Bloc Party was amazing, by the way.

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rocky March 25, 2009 at 2:03 pm

And let’s not forget sanctimonious indie bloggers, their smug holier than thou morality always make my night…

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Will March 25, 2009 at 2:14 pm

hey im a 6’5 guy, whatcha got against me :-p

but yea these are all very good points!

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chris March 25, 2009 at 2:16 pm

@chopsticknick – No harm meant to the big fellas! Definitely get your dance on, you shouldn’t have to act differently. I was just stuck behind a football player-sized guy at the show who wasn’t dancing, just kind of aimlessly shuffling while drinking his Guinness, so it was fresh in my mind.

@Brandon – If he wants to Mosh, he should get there early enough to be in the pit!

@rocky – Truth. Should have included them, although I suppose the whole post includes them, huh?

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colleen March 26, 2009 at 12:16 am

so true! the make-couples are the worst–at an against me! show i had a guy’s mohawk in my face for a good fifteen minutes. then a tall girl used her four foot tall friend as an excuse to get up front…frustrating.

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Briana March 26, 2009 at 7:03 am

I was at the same show in Boston this weekend, and I saw every single one of the people you listed here, haha. I had a huge swaying guy in front of me, had 6 asian girls and their tall boyfriends push in front of me, and was bordered by a makeout-couple. My boyfriend and I actually ended up leaving the floor early because the people around us were so obnoxious. We watched the rest of the show from the bar area to the side, and it was much better.

Glad I wasn’t the only one who was annoyed with the crowd at that show, haha!

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kelsey. March 26, 2009 at 11:44 pm

there is no possible way this could have been any more accurate.

mad props for perfectly articulating everything that irritates me about my life.

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kelsey. March 26, 2009 at 11:48 pm

i would, however, like to add Those People Who Take All Available Mementos From the Show.

i once went to a strokes concert, and one singular woman harassed her way into taking home the setlists, picks, and drumsticks from not only the Strokes’ set, but both opening bands. i swear to god, if she went home and sold all that of ebay, i will lose all hope for the future of human culture.

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j March 27, 2009 at 1:10 pm

wow i was at the show Matt and Kim / Cut Copy show in Boston too. I had some special people around me. A makeout couple, that was more of a dry humping couple, then a Mom and Dad that were like 45. THe mom was raging the WHOLE time and the guy just stood there. Then there was the drunk couple with the bro that hated both bands and I seriously thought was going to fight his gf. I think they might have broken up during the show and he left her there. it was sweet.

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Tart March 27, 2009 at 7:58 pm

oh no, not 45!!!!! hahahha sez the 44 year old groupie :-p

and yeah, shorties to the front, as a 5’2″ I hold no grudge against you tallboys but don’t begrudge us a view, eh? yes, I’ll move …. right in front of ya.
good post Chris, the freakin talkers are going to get me arrested some day, I swear it! xoxo

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Matt March 29, 2009 at 9:05 pm

I feel for you about the talkers… Had one in the row behind me at a Midler concert during her last tour. At intermission, several of the other people around us asked her and her friend to please be quiet. She got all belligerent with them, so I turned around and told her outright if they didn’t shut up I would get security. She started swearing at me, so I got up and brought security, and within two minutes, security had removed her and her friend from the floor (sort of “orchestra” seating for an arena). Never did know where they took her, but I did get a round of applause when they took her from the people sitting around us.

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edog April 25, 2009 at 8:27 am

You forgot Palm Pilot Recorder, the guy who, while everyone else is moving in time to the music, is sitting stark still recording the show on his Palm Pilot. The guy doesn’t flinch, and may as well be a support beam in the club. He’s like the lead rod in the nuclear reactor. This guy should just stay home and rent a movie. Unfortunately, he and the Mosher in the Back are never properly introduced.

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