The National's Matt Berninger calls album "strange" and "really dark," promises no "dick references"

"My wife and I are writing the lyrics together about our own struggles and it’s difficult to write, but it’s saving my marriage"
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"My wife and I are writing the lyrics together about our own struggles and it’s difficult to write, but it’s saving my marriage"
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The National’s frontman Matt Berninger stopped by Rolling Stone’s “Music Now” podcast to have a conversation with RS editors and acclaimed author/“Gen X icon” Dave Eggers and Sleater-Kinney’s Corin Tucker on the upcoming U.S. presidential election. 

On the election, Berninger said:

“I’m a little bit in love with Hillary Clinton... She has many flaws. I’ve got so many flaws and I’m in love with myself. But I give myself a break. So I think she’s wonderful, especially the way she’s been handling what she’s been facing recently and with direct power, elegance. I've totally got a crush on her.”

But he also discussed the new National album! Any National fan worth their salt know that the band has never waited four years between albums, but that’s looking like reality with their new one. Their last album, Trouble Will Find Me came out all the way back in 2013. While Berninger says the band are “deep in” the record, it won’t be out anytime soon. “It’s really dark and there aren’t any dick references on the new National record,” he promised. 

He expounded on the album’s themes:

It’s about marriage, and it’s about marriages falling apart. I’m happily married, and but it’s hard, marriage is hard and my wife and I are writing the lyrics together about our own struggles and it’s difficult to write, but it’s saving my marriage. Not saving my marriage, my marriage is healthy, but it’s good for everything! And so it’s gonna be a strange record, and I’m crazy about it.

The album isn’t expected until next year.